On this week’s Soapbox Derby, Adam Mann talks with John Kabateck of the National Federation of Independent Business about the state of the Bay Area and California economy during the ongoing COVID-19 epidemic. Based in Sacramento, John Kabateck is the State Director of NFIB, and is also the president of Kabateck Strategies, a business consulting firm. John and Adam discuss the state of California’s economy, where things might go from here, and John shares some resources to help small businesses who are struggling.